REFLECTOR:Foil Tape Antennas

Tom Martino reflector@tvbf.org
Sun, 4 May 2003 13:03:31 -0600


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I was told you could use the VOR antenna for the localizer and you
didn't need a separate antenna.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Millin [mailto:amillin@net-link.net]=20
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 7:45 AM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Foil Tape Antennas
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Chris,
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According the the plans, the VOR antennas are to be built into the
bottom of the wing.  Obviously, not a place where you could cover them
with any type of foil.
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I did install my localizer antenna in the cabin floor.  Thanks for the
tip.
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Best,
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Andy
	-----Original Message-----
	From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of Chris Martin
	Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 1:00 PM
	To: reflector
	Subject: REFLECTOR:Foil Tape Antennas
	This note is for those of you that are using the foil tape
antennas as designed by Jim Weir. This is the standard antenna system in
the Velocities and I am sure all of you are using them in some form. I
have always been unhappy with the performance of my VOR antennas mounted
on my fuselage floor and finally wrote to Jim Weir to seek his advice. I
wrote:
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	"Jim, my question is this. The two VOR antennas in question are
mounted on the floor of the fiberglass fuselage. Over the floor I have I
have laid sound insulation and carpet. The sound insulation has a
aluminum foil layer on each side. Is the foil the probable source of the
antenna failure? "
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	Jim's response was "Without a doubt!"
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	I wonder how many of you have made the same mistake I made in
diligently building your antennas to Jim Weir's plans and then
mistakenly covering them with a foil backed sound insulation. The foil
backed sound insulation was the one recommended by Velocity when I
installed my interiors in 2000.
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	Hope this helps some of you.
	=20
	Chris Martin
	Velocity XL RG
	330 hours flying
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I was told you could use the VOR =
antenna
for the localizer and you didn&#8217;t need a separate =
antenna.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Andy Millin
[mailto:amillin@net-link.net<span class=3DGramE>] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent</span></b></span><b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>:</span></b> Sunday, May 04, 2003 7:45 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
reflector@tvbf.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: =
REFLECTOR<span
class=3DGramE>:Foil</span> Tape Antennas</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>According the =
the plans,
the VOR antennas are to be built into the bottom of the wing.&nbsp; =
Obviously,
not a place where you could cover them with any type of =
foil.</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans =
Serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I did install my
localizer antenna in the cabin floor.&nbsp; Thanks for the =
tip.</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans =
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font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
reflector-admin@tvbf.org
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf Of
</span></b>Chris Martin<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, May 03, =
2003 1:00
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> reflector<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> REFLECTOR:Foil =
Tape
Antennas</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'>This note is for =
those of
you that are using the foil tape antennas as designed by Jim Weir. This =
is the
standard antenna system in the Velocities and I am sure all of you are =
using
them in some form. I have always been unhappy with the performance of my =
VOR
antennas mounted on my fuselage floor and finally wrote to Jim Weir to =
seek his
advice. I wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'>&quot;Jim, my =
question is
this. The two VOR antennas in question are mounted on the floor of the
fiberglass fuselage. Over the floor I have I have laid sound insulation =
and
carpet. The sound insulation has a aluminum foil layer on each side. Is =
the
foil the probable source of the antenna failure?</span></font><font =
size=3D2
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>&nbsp;&quot;</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans =
Serif"><span
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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Jim's response =
was
&quot;Without a doubt!&quot;</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans =
Serif"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans =
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face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span
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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I wonder how =
many of you
have made the same mistake I made in diligently building your antennas =
to Jim
Weir's plans and then mistakenly covering them with a foil backed sound
insulation. The foil backed sound insulation was the one recommended by
Velocity when I installed my interiors in 2000.</span></font><font =
size=3D2
face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS =
Sans Serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hope this helps =
some of
you.</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Martin</span></font><font
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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
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RG</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans =
Serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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flying</span></font><font
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