The ones I mentioned can't be pulled off with Vise Grips unless you remove the locking screw. Jim --- NMFlyer1@aol.com wrote: > I just put a dab of Silicone on the hooks to hold them > down and in place... I > tried the clips and half of them popped off. > > Kurt Winker > ===== James F. Agnew Jim_Agnew_2@Yahoo.Com Tampa, FL Velocity 173 Elite Aircraft Completed