REFLECTOR:173 Front Seat Ballast

[Velocity_AZ]

Ronnie,

We just completed W&B on our 173 FG. (has M-T prop and quite a heavy panel)

Empty Weight - 1505 lbs.

My weight and balance says that I need 25-30 lbs in the nose (18" aft) to
fly within the envelope (I weight 147 lbs.) or 65 lbs in the co-pilot seat.

I plan on using lead shot bags.

Regards,

Kevin Steiner
Scottsdale, AZ
Just received our airworthiness certificate this morning!!!


-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of
Ronnie Brown
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:55 PM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: REFLECTOR:173 Front Seat Ballast

My weight and balance on my 173 Elite RG with 200 HP Lycoming and Catto Prop
says I should fly with 40-50 lbs of ballast in the co-pilot floor when I am
flying by myself - I weigh 190 lbs.  I recall Alan Shaw saying that the aft
CG limit was too conservative due to the flat stall problem, which had been
over corrected.  I am using a camping water tank that holds 5 gallons, but
it is leaking and sure is a pain.

Is anyone flying without ballast and weighs less than 200 lbs in a 173?

THANKS!
Ronnie



----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Derrick" <scott@tnstaafl.net>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Storm Scope Probe


> Your cell phone will work in the plane, but your service provider will
> be royally pissed if you use it regularly and probably cancel your
account.
>
> Scott
>
> Dave Scharfenberg wrote:
> > A friend just showed me his new cell phone.  He can get color radar all
over
> > the country for $3 / month.  He said there is a "pilot" plan that gives
you
> > metars, tafs, etc. for $9 / month.  All you have to do is figure out how
to
> > get your cell phone to work in the plane.
> >
> > Dave Scharfenberg
> >
> >
> >
> > on 6/12/03 12:20 PM, Ronnie Brown at romott@adelphia.net wrote:
> >
> >
> >>That's what I'm waiting for.  I made room for a strike finder or WX-500
to
> >>link to my Garmin 430 but I'm waiting for a satellite or land based
system
> >>to display just what you mentioned - at a lower cost.  The technology is
> >>coming FAST.  There are several alternatives out there now and
competition
> >>breeds lower prices and better capabilities.  The data may be a bit
slower,
> >>but the "view" of the strike finders and WX-500's is limited to pretty
much
> >>the line in front of you, not much behind that.
> >>
> >>Ronnie
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Dave Scharfenberg" <dave@winco.net>
> >>To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> >>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:36 PM
> >>Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Storm Scope Probe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I occasionally fly a King Air 200 equipped with the Bendix / King
display
> >>>that shows radar images similar to a DTN screen.  I think the signal is
> >>>uplinked from the ground.  It always works well and is great for
getting
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>big picture, which is what we need for avoiding the weather completely.
> >>
> >>The
> >>
> >>>unit also displays onboard radar, traffic, terrain, metars, moving map,
> >>>stormscope returns, and probably some stuff I haven't found yet.
> >>>
> >>>Dave Scharfenberg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>on 6/11/03 9:30 AM, Alexander Balic at alex157@direcway.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I was also, thinking
> >>>>about Bob Wood's suggestion about the Satellite weather downlink- it
> >>>
> >>looks
> >>
> >>>>really good, but my concern about it is that you are relying on your
> >>>
> >>weather
> >>
> >>>>data from an external source, and perhaps it is on a different
frequency
> >>>>than other satellite links, but I know that my sat TV, and my Sat
> >>>
> >>internet
> >>
> >>>>uplink both go down during bad weather, so I would have some concern
> >>>
> >>about
> >>
> >>>>reception of the signals just when you really need them most.....
anyone
> >>>>have any experience with that? I'd like to hear about it, because if
the
> >>>>signals are reliable in lightning infested areas, then maybe it would
be
> >>>
> >>a
> >>
> >>>>good alternative.
> >>>
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