REFLECTOR:173 Front Seat Ballast

Scott Derrick reflector@tvbf.org
Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:07:40 -0600


Ronnie,

Where's your battery?

I fly my Std RG solo, I weight 175-180. It puts me about 1/4 " forward 
of the aft limit. Battery in the nose.  I do have a full radio stack 
which helps out on aft CG.

Scott

Ronnie Brown wrote:
> My weight and balance on my 173 Elite RG with 200 HP Lycoming and Catto Prop
> says I should fly with 40-50 lbs of ballast in the co-pilot floor when I am
> flying by myself - I weigh 190 lbs.  I recall Alan Shaw saying that the aft
> CG limit was too conservative due to the flat stall problem, which had been
> over corrected.  I am using a camping water tank that holds 5 gallons, but
> it is leaking and sure is a pain.
> 
> Is anyone flying without ballast and weighs less than 200 lbs in a 173?
> 
> THANKS!
> Ronnie
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Derrick" <scott@tnstaafl.net>
> To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Storm Scope Probe
> 
> 
> 
>>Your cell phone will work in the plane, but your service provider will
>>be royally pissed if you use it regularly and probably cancel your
> 
> account.
> 
>>Scott
>>
>>Dave Scharfenberg wrote:
>>
>>>A friend just showed me his new cell phone.  He can get color radar all
>>
> over
> 
>>>the country for $3 / month.  He said there is a "pilot" plan that gives
>>
> you
> 
>>>metars, tafs, etc. for $9 / month.  All you have to do is figure out how
>>
> to
> 
>>>get your cell phone to work in the plane.
>>>
>>>Dave Scharfenberg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>on 6/12/03 12:20 PM, Ronnie Brown at romott@adelphia.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's what I'm waiting for.  I made room for a strike finder or WX-500
>>>
> to
> 
>>>>link to my Garmin 430 but I'm waiting for a satellite or land based
>>>
> system
> 
>>>>to display just what you mentioned - at a lower cost.  The technology is
>>>>coming FAST.  There are several alternatives out there now and
>>>
> competition
> 
>>>>breeds lower prices and better capabilities.  The data may be a bit
>>>
> slower,
> 
>>>>but the "view" of the strike finders and WX-500's is limited to pretty
>>>
> much
> 
>>>>the line in front of you, not much behind that.
>>>>
>>>>Ronnie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Dave Scharfenberg" <dave@winco.net>
>>>>To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:36 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Storm Scope Probe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I occasionally fly a King Air 200 equipped with the Bendix / King
>>>>
> display
> 
>>>>>that shows radar images similar to a DTN screen.  I think the signal is
>>>>>uplinked from the ground.  It always works well and is great for
>>>>
> getting
> 
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>big picture, which is what we need for avoiding the weather completely.
>>>>
>>>>The
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>unit also displays onboard radar, traffic, terrain, metars, moving map,
>>>>>stormscope returns, and probably some stuff I haven't found yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Scharfenberg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>on 6/11/03 9:30 AM, Alexander Balic at alex157@direcway.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I was also, thinking
>>>>>>about Bob Wood's suggestion about the Satellite weather downlink- it
>>>>>
>>>>looks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>really good, but my concern about it is that you are relying on your
>>>>>
>>>>weather
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>data from an external source, and perhaps it is on a different
>>>>>
> frequency
> 
>>>>>>than other satellite links, but I know that my sat TV, and my Sat
>>>>>
>>>>internet
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>uplink both go down during bad weather, so I would have some concern
>>>>>
>>>>about
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>reception of the signals just when you really need them most.....
>>>>>
> anyone
> 
>>>>>>have any experience with that? I'd like to hear about it, because if
>>>>>
> the
> 
>>>>>>signals are reliable in lightning infested areas, then maybe it would
>>>>>
> be
> 
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>good alternative.
>>>>>
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