REFLECTOR: Nose gear mod?....was, accident/incident report

reflector@tvbf.org reflector@tvbf.org
Wed, 04 Jun 2003 00:52:04 +0000


It makes ingress and egress easier for top door models, probably allows you to 
cruise a little faster, saves weight, and is more stable parked on the tarmac 
on a windy day.

Doug Holub
> Now that is kinda interesting.  I don't really see me doing it (ok, I know I
> won't), but I have always wondered how much extra speed may be gained by
> retracting only the nose gear.  I know in the Cozy, you might as well since
> it is already installed to allow the plane to "graze", but is there a
> real/significant  performance difference?  I can't imagine it would be worth
> the extra complexity just for the nose....but to once again steal from
> Dennis Miller........I could be wrong <g>
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Chris
> 
> Christopher Barber
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> Behalf Of Herb Sanders
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:09 AM
> To: reflector@tvbf.org
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> 
> 
> Wayne, I have an unused nose strut, fork, wheel,tire etc for the std fg
> Velo. I put a Cozy strut/fork/tire with electric nose lift on my fixed gear
> project.
> Herb Sanders
> BTW, have you thought about going rg/elec nose lift instead of going back
> with the standard strut?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Owens" <wamowens@bellsouth.net>
> To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:54 PM
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> 
> 
> > Well after 60 some hours I just broke off the crummy nose gear strut on my
> > fixed gear bird.
> > I would never have recovered the extra 1000 hours build time  in the 15 to
> > 20 minutes per flight I would save.
> > I guess that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.
> > Wayne
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <doug.holub@att.net>
> > To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> >
> >
> > > Amen. It's not worth 10 knots to me.  Plus, and I hope I don't hurt
> > anyone's
> > > feelings here, it seems like half of the KPCs are RG related.  I'm not
> > saying
> > > it's not a safe system, I'm just saying that it would double the
> > complexity of
> > > my airplane.
> > >
> > > Doug Holub
> > > > Andy,
> > > >
> > > > I hate to admit it, but I feel the same way as to my fixed gear SE.
> > Yeah,
> > > > sometimes I have a tinge of reflection of "gee, should I have opted
> for
> > the
> > > > retract", but it ALWAYS passes (even withOUT this kind of report).
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > Christopher Barber
> > > > Attorney and Counselor at Law
> > > > 11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
> > > > Suite 103
> > > > Houston, Texas 77089-4755
> > > > 281-464-LAWS (5297)
> > > > 281-754-4168 (Fax)
> > > >
> > > > CBarber@TexasAttorney.net
> > > > www.TexasAttorney.net
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andy Millin [mailto:amillin@net-link.net]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:27 PM
> > > > To: Christopher Barber
> > > > Subject: FW: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You know, every time I see one of these I think I'm the smarter one
> for
> > > > getting the fixed gear.  I'll always be there when it is cured in
> place.
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to make light of this guys accident, but ...
> > > >
> > > > Good for us.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> > > > Behalf Of Ronnie Brown
> > >
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:20 PM
> > > > To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > > > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Durn, he just started flying his new bird -
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/list/Velocity%20RG%20Elite_Schiferl.asp#TopO
> > > > fPage
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "steve korney" <s_korney@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <Reflector@tvbf.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:08 PM
> > > > Subject: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > > >   Regis#: 942XX        Make/Model: EXP      Description:
> EXP-VELOCITY
> > > > 173/RG
> > > > >   Date: 06/01/2003     Time: 1600
> > > > >
> > > > >   Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N
> > Missing: N
> > > > >   Damage:
> > > > >
> > > > > LOCATION
> > > > >   City: WATERTOWN   State: WI   Country: US
> > > > >
> > > > > DESCRIPTION
> > > > >   AIRCRAFT LANDED GEAR UP ON RUNWAY 26 AT WATERTOWN MUNICIPAL
> AIRPORT
> > > > (RYV)
> > > > >   DURING AIRCRAFT CHECKOUT FLIGHT. WATERTOWN, WI.
> > > > >
> > > > > INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
> > > > >                  # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0
> > > > Unk:
> > > > >                  # Pass:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0
> > > > Unk:
> > > > >                  # Grnd:         Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0
> > > > Unk:
> > > > >
> > > > > WEATHER: KUNU METAR 011555Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR 13/01 A3011
> > > > >
> > > > > OTHER DATA

> > > > >   Activity: Training      Phase: Landing      Operation: General
> > Aviation
> > > > >
> > > > >   Departed: (RYV) WATERTOWN, WI         Dep Date: 06/01/2003   Dep.
> > Time:
> > > > > 1545
> > > > >   Destination: (UNU) JUNEAU, WI         Flt Plan: NONE         Wx
> > > > Briefing:
> > > > > N
> > > > >   Last Radio Cont:
> > > > >   Last Clearance:
> > > > >
> > > > >   FAA FSDO: MILWAUKEE, WI  (GL13)                 Entry date:
> > 06/02/2003
> > > > >
> > > > > N-number Database Search Result
> > > > > Last Database Update: Tue May 6 12:41:12 2003
> > > > > To print registration information, check the checkbox for each
> > > > registration
> > > > > to be printed and click on "Retrieve Selected Entries" at the bottom
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > list.
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ------
> > > > >
> > > > > N-number                       : N942XX
> > >
> > > > > Aircraft Serial Number         : DMO369
> > > > > Aircraft Manufacturer          : SCHIFERL JOSEPH J
> > > > >          Model                 : VELOCITY 173/RG-E
> > > > > Aircraft Year                  :
> > > > > Owner Name                     : SCHIFERL JOSEPH J
> > > > > Owner Address                  : N3104 US HIGHWAY 12 # B
> > > > >                                  FORT ATKINSON, WI, 53538-9778
> > > > > Registration Date              : 15-Apr-1998
> > > > > Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's be careful out there...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best... Steve
> > > > >
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