REFLECTOR: Nose gear mod?....was, accident/incident report
Jim Agnew
reflector@tvbf.org
Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:27:34 -0700 (PDT)
Chris,
The number I have heard for the nose gear drag is 40% of
the total drag so it is significant.
Jim
--- Christopher Barber <CBarber@TexasAttorney.net> wrote:
> Now that is kinda interesting. I don't really see me
> doing it (ok, I know I
> won't), but I have always wondered how much extra speed
> may be gained by
> retracting only the nose gear. I know in the Cozy, you
> might as well since
> it is already installed to allow the plane to "graze",
> but is there a
> real/significant performance difference? I can't
> imagine it would be worth
> the extra complexity just for the nose....but to once
> again steal from
> Dennis Miller........I could be wrong <g>
>
> All the best,
>
> Chris
>
> Christopher Barber
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> 11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
> Suite 103
> Houston, Texas 77089-4755
> 281-464-LAWS (5297)
> 281-754-4168 (Fax)
>
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> www.TexasAttorney.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org
> [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> Behalf Of Herb Sanders
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:09 AM
> To: reflector@tvbf.org
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
>
>
> Wayne, I have an unused nose strut, fork, wheel,tire etc
> for the std fg
> Velo. I put a Cozy strut/fork/tire with electric nose
> lift on my fixed gear
> project.
> Herb Sanders
> BTW, have you thought about going rg/elec nose lift
> instead of going back
> with the standard strut?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Owens" <wamowens@bellsouth.net>
> To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:54 PM
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
>
>
> > Well after 60 some hours I just broke off the crummy
> nose gear strut on my
> > fixed gear bird.
> > I would never have recovered the extra 1000 hours build
> time in the 15 to
> > 20 minutes per flight I would save.
> > I guess that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.
> > Wayne
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <doug.holub@att.net>
> > To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> >
> >
> > > Amen. It's not worth 10 knots to me. Plus, and I
> hope I don't hurt
> > anyone's
> > > feelings here, it seems like half of the KPCs are RG
> related. I'm not
> > saying
> > > it's not a safe system, I'm just saying that it would
> double the
> > complexity of
> > > my airplane.
> > >
> > > Doug Holub
> > > > Andy,
> > > >
> > > > I hate to admit it, but I feel the same way as to
> my fixed gear SE.
> > Yeah,
> > > > sometimes I have a tinge of reflection of "gee,
> should I have opted
> for
> > the
> > > > retract", but it ALWAYS passes (even withOUT this
> kind of report).
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > Christopher Barber
> > > > Attorney and Counselor at Law
> > > > 11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
> > > > Suite 103
> > > > Houston, Texas 77089-4755
> > > > 281-464-LAWS (5297)
> > > > 281-754-4168 (Fax)
> > > >
> > > > CBarber@TexasAttorney.net
> > > > www.TexasAttorney.net
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andy Millin [mailto:amillin@net-link.net]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:27 PM
> > > > To: Christopher Barber
> > > > Subject: FW: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You know, every time I see one of these I think I'm
> the smarter one
> for
> > > > getting the fixed gear. I'll always be there when
> it is cured in
> place.
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to make light of this guys accident,
> but ...
> > > >
> > > > Good for us.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org
> [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> > > > Behalf Of Ronnie Brown
> > >
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:20 PM
> > > > To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > > > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Durn, he just started flying his new bird -
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/list/Velocity%20RG%20Elite_Schiferl.asp#TopO
> > > > fPage
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "steve korney" <s_korney@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <Reflector@tvbf.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:08 PM
> > > > Subject: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > > > Regis#: 942XX Make/Model: EXP
> Description:
> EXP-VELOCITY
> > > > 173/RG
> > > > > Date: 06/01/2003 Time: 1600
> > > > >
> > > > > Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None
> Mid Air: N
> > Missing: N
> > > > > Damage:
> > > > >
> > > > > LOCATION
> > > > > City: WATERTOWN State: WI Country: US
> > > > >
> > > > > DESCRIPTION
> > > > > AIRCRAFT LANDED GEAR UP ON RUNWAY 26 AT
> WATERTOWN MUNICIPAL
> AIRPORT
> > > > (RYV)
> > > > > DURING AIRCRAFT CHECKOUT FLIGHT. WATERTOWN, WI.
> > > > >
> > > > > INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> > > > > # Crew: 1 Fat: 0
> Ser: 0 Min: 0
> > > > Unk:
> > > > > # Pass: 1 Fat: 0
> Ser: 0 Min: 0
> > > > Unk:
> > > > > # Grnd: Fat: 0
> Ser: 0 Min: 0
> > > > Unk:
> > > > >
> > > > > WEATHER: KUNU METAR 011555Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR
> 13/01 A3011
> > > > >
> > > > > OTHER DATA
> > > > > Activity: Training Phase: Landing
> Operation: General
> > Aviation
> > > > >
> > > > > Departed: (RYV) WATERTOWN, WI Dep Date:
> 06/01/2003 Dep.
> > Time:
> > > > > 1545
> > > > > Destination: (UNU) JUNEAU, WI Flt Plan:
> NONE Wx
> > > > Briefing:
> > > > > N
> > > > > Last Radio Cont:
> > > > > Last Clearance:
> > > > >
> > > > > FAA FSDO: MILWAUKEE, WI (GL13)
> Entry date:
> > 06/02/2003
> > > > >
> > > > > N-number Database Search Result
> > > > > Last Database Update: Tue May 6 12:41:12 2003
> > > > > To print registration information, check the
> checkbox for each
> > > > registration
> > > > > to be printed and click on "Retrieve Selected
> Entries" at the bottom
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > list.
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ------
> > > > >
> > > > > N-number : N942XX
> > >
> > > > > Aircraft Serial Number : DMO369
> > > > > Aircraft Manufacturer : SCHIFERL JOSEPH
> J
> > > > > Model : VELOCITY
> 173/RG-E
> > > > > Aircraft Year :
> > > > > Owner Name : SCHIFERL JOSEPH
> J
> > > > > Owner Address : N3104 US HIGHWAY
> 12 # B
> > > > > FORT ATKINSON,
> WI, 53538-9778
> > > > > Registration Date : 15-Apr-1998
> > > > > Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's be careful out there...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best... Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
>
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James F. Agnew
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Tampa, FL
Velocity 173 Elite Aircraft Completed