REFLECTOR: Nose gear mod?....was, accident/incident report
Chuck Jensen
reflector@tvbf.org
Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:56:29 -0400
But what if you forget to lower your nose gear before taking off?
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of Herb Sanders
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:12 PM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Nose gear mod?....was, accident/incident report
Chris, Although getting rid of the nose gear should gain a few knots, it was
not primarily a speed mod. The project I bought is a top loader and I could
not stand the look of the step ladder hanging down. My wife and I do not hop
as well as we did a few years ago so hopping up on the strake was not too
appealing. The electric nose lift allows the plane to kneel and entry should
be easy. Looks neat too with the gear retracted. We have had LongEZs for the
last 20+ years so it looks natural to us.
Regards, Herb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Barber" <CBarber@texasattorney.net>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Nose gear mod?....was, accident/incident report
> Now that is kinda interesting. I don't really see me doing it (ok, I know
I
> won't), but I have always wondered how much extra speed may be gained by
> retracting only the nose gear. I know in the Cozy, you might as well
since
> it is already installed to allow the plane to "graze", but is there a
> real/significant performance difference? I can't imagine it would be
worth
> the extra complexity just for the nose....but to once again steal from
> Dennis Miller........I could be wrong <g>
>
> All the best,
>
> Chris
>
> Christopher Barber
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> 11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
> Suite 103
> Houston, Texas 77089-4755
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> Behalf Of Herb Sanders
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:09 AM
> To: reflector@tvbf.org
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
>
>
> Wayne, I have an unused nose strut, fork, wheel,tire etc for the std fg
> Velo. I put a Cozy strut/fork/tire with electric nose lift on my fixed
gear
> project.
> Herb Sanders
> BTW, have you thought about going rg/elec nose lift instead of going back
> with the standard strut?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Owens" <wamowens@bellsouth.net>
> To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:54 PM
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
>
>
> > Well after 60 some hours I just broke off the crummy nose gear strut on
my
> > fixed gear bird.
> > I would never have recovered the extra 1000 hours build time in the 15
to
> > 20 minutes per flight I would save.
> > I guess that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.
> > Wayne
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <doug.holub@att.net>
> > To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> >
> >
> > > Amen. It's not worth 10 knots to me. Plus, and I hope I don't hurt
> > anyone's
> > > feelings here, it seems like half of the KPCs are RG related. I'm not
> > saying
> > > it's not a safe system, I'm just saying that it would double the
> > complexity of
> > > my airplane.
> > >
> > > Doug Holub
> > > > Andy,
> > > >
> > > > I hate to admit it, but I feel the same way as to my fixed gear SE.
> > Yeah,
> > > > sometimes I have a tinge of reflection of "gee, should I have opted
> for
> > the
> > > > retract", but it ALWAYS passes (even withOUT this kind of report).
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > Christopher Barber
> > > > Attorney and Counselor at Law
> > > > 11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
> > > > Suite 103
> > > > Houston, Texas 77089-4755
> > > > 281-464-LAWS (5297)
> > > > 281-754-4168 (Fax)
> > > >
> > > > CBarber@TexasAttorney.net
> > > > www.TexasAttorney.net
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andy Millin [mailto:amillin@net-link.net]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:27 PM
> > > > To: Christopher Barber
> > > > Subject: FW: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You know, every time I see one of these I think I'm the smarter one
> for
> > > > getting the fixed gear. I'll always be there when it is cured in
> place.
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to make light of this guys accident, but ...
> > > >
> > > > Good for us.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> > > > Behalf Of Ronnie Brown
> > >
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:20 PM
> > > > To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > > > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Durn, he just started flying his new bird -
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/list/Velocity%20RG%20Elite_Schiferl.asp#TopO
> > > > fPage
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "steve korney" <s_korney@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <Reflector@tvbf.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:08 PM
> > > > Subject: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > > > Regis#: 942XX Make/Model: EXP Description:
> EXP-VELOCITY
> > > > 173/RG
> > > > > Date: 06/01/2003 Time: 1600
> > > > >
> > > > > Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N
> > Missing: N
> > > > > Damage:
> > > > >
> > > > > LOCATION
> > > > > City: WATERTOWN State: WI Country: US
> > > > >
> > > > > DESCRIPTION
> > > > > AIRCRAFT LANDED GEAR UP ON RUNWAY 26 AT WATERTOWN MUNICIPAL
> AIRPORT
> > > > (RYV)
> > > > > DURING AIRCRAFT CHECKOUT FLIGHT. WATERTOWN, WI.
> > > > >
> > > > > INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> > > > > # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min:
0
> > > > Unk:
> > > > > # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min:
0
> > > > Unk:
> > > > > # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min:
0
> > > > Unk:
> > > > >
> > > > > WEATHER: KUNU METAR 011555Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR 13/01 A3011
> > > > >
> > > > > OTHER DATA
> > > > > Activity: Training Phase: Landing Operation: General
> > Aviation
> > > > >
> > > > > Departed: (RYV) WATERTOWN, WI Dep Date: 06/01/2003
Dep.
> > Time:
> > > > > 1545
> > > > > Destination: (UNU) JUNEAU, WI Flt Plan: NONE Wx
> > > > Briefing:
> > > > > N
> > > > > Last Radio Cont:
> > > > > Last Clearance:
> > > > >
> > > > > FAA FSDO: MILWAUKEE, WI (GL13) Entry date:
> > 06/02/2003
> > > > >
> > > > > N-number Database Search Result
> > > > > Last Database Update: Tue May 6 12:41:12 2003
> > > > > To print registration information, check the checkbox for each
> > > > registration
> > > > > to be printed and click on "Retrieve Selected Entries" at the
bottom
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > list.
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ------
> > > > >
> > > > > N-number : N942XX
> > >
> > > > > Aircraft Serial Number : DMO369
> > > > > Aircraft Manufacturer : SCHIFERL JOSEPH J
> > > > > Model : VELOCITY 173/RG-E
> > > > > Aircraft Year :
> > > > > Owner Name : SCHIFERL JOSEPH J
> > > > > Owner Address : N3104 US HIGHWAY 12 # B
> > > > > FORT ATKINSON, WI, 53538-9778
> > > > > Registration Date : 15-Apr-1998
> > > > > Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's be careful out there...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best... Steve
> > > > >
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