REFLECTOR:Moving the non-flying Velocity

alventures reflector@tvbf.org
Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:35:58 -0700


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Firewall to nose is very close to 12 ft; the sweep-back of the strakes
adds about 6=94.  Add height of trailer; then see if you can find info =
on
lowest overpass on your route.

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These numbers are for a std elite, but I believe are the same for the
173: could be your spar is a bit wider.

Width of wing spar is 11=92 9=94, so setting vertically on edge gains =
about
9=94.  Setting at a 45 degree angle give you about 8 =BD=92 high and =
wide.  69
degrees from horizontal cuts the width in half.  Limits may vary place
to place, but 105=94 (8=92 9=94) wide comes to mind; is that right?

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Considering the possibility of moving my airframe (Southern Cal.) a
while back I checked with Caltrans, Highway patrol, sheriff, etc; and
got transferred around a lot and got conflicting information.  Finally a
highway patrol officer told me  =91put it on a trailer, go early Sunday
morning, stay off the main roads as much as you can=92.  Seemed like a
good approach to me.  Of course this was for a local 15 mile trip.  3500
miles across state lines and two countries probably requires more
planning.

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Al

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Good thoughts I may have to do that ...thanx....but I think from the
nose to the firewall (without the cowling) is only about 13 feet(?) or
less isn't it?... I do not know for sure...all the manuals etc are in
the hangar .   I have only one or two days to get this thing loaded up
and the hangar emptied and to get on the road ...Ready to get this thing
flying after 10 years!   =20

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>> >Ok...I give up....I will never complete my Velocity 173 RG as long
as it=20
> >is in a hangar in Colorado and I live in Alaska...soooooo...I am
going=20
> >down to put it on trailer and truck it 3500 miles to my house here in

> >AK.......wide load and all...I am wondering...if I gut it and remove
the=20
> >engine and mount if I can move it like a rocket on the launch pad in
an=20
> >upright position.....was thinking of building a 'box' out of 2x10
lumber=20
> >to 'mount' on the firewall engine mount holes and setting the
Velocity=20
> >fuselage upright on that and strapping the 'box' and gear down to the

> >trailer for the long haul..thus no wide load problems....
> >   Does anyone have any idea if the firewall can take the stresses of
this=20
> > road trip? I BELIEVE it can but do not know.... Moving it ..one way
or=20
> > the other,   THANX    Jeff Clough
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> If you think making 3500 miles as a wide load is hard, imagine 3500
miles=20
> without being able to go through an underpass.
>=20
> Make your box, but bolt it to one side of the main spar.  The wing
attach=20
> points are the second strongest points on the airplane.  Make a cradle
for=20
> the nose (attach to the canard attach points) and put it on the
trailer=20
> sideways, nose forward but rolled 90 degrees to the side.  That way
you're=20
> only 14' tall, not 20'.  =20
> Visit the gallery!  tvbf:jamaicangoose


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
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11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Firewall to nose is very close to =
12 ft;
the sweep-back of the strakes adds about 6&#8221;.=A0 Add height of =
trailer; then
see if you can find info on lowest overpass on your =
route.</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
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11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>These numbers are for a std =
elite, but I
believe are the same for the 173: could be your spar is a bit =
wider.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
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11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Width of wing spar is 11&#8217; =
9&#8221;,
so setting vertically on edge gains about 9&#8221;.=A0 Setting at a 45 =
degree
angle give you about 8 =BD&#8217; high and wide.=A0 69 degrees from =
horizontal cuts
the width in half.=A0 Limits may vary place to place, but 105&#8221; =
(8&#8217; 9&#8221;)
wide comes to mind; is that right?</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Considering the possibility of =
moving my
airframe (</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span
 style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Southern =
Cal.</span></font><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:blue'>) a while back I checked with Caltrans, Highway patrol, =
sheriff,
etc; and got transferred around a lot and got conflicting =
information.=A0 Finally
a highway patrol officer told me =A0&#8216;put it on a trailer, go early =
Sunday
morning, stay off the main roads as much as you can&#8217;.=A0 Seemed =
like a good
approach to me.=A0 Of course this was for a local 15 mile trip. =A03500 =
miles
across state lines and two countries probably requires more =
planning.</span></font></p>

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color:black'> I may have to do that&nbsp;...thanx....but I think from =
the nose
to the firewall (without the cowling) is only about 13 feet(?) or less =
isn't
it?...&nbsp;I do not know for sure...all the manuals etc are in the =
hangar
.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have only one&nbsp;or two days to get this thing loaded =
up and
the hangar emptied and to get on the road ...Ready to get this thing =
flying
after 10 years!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></b></strong></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font =
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color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>&gt;&gt; &gt;Ok...I give up....I will never complete my =
Velocity
173 RG as long as it </span></font></b></strong><b><font size=3D4 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
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font-weight:bold'><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
&gt;is in a
hangar in Colorado and I live in Alaska...soooooo...I am going =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
&gt;down to
put it on trailer and truck it 3500 miles to my house here in =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt;
&gt;AK.......wide load and all...I am wondering...if I gut it and remove =
the </span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
&gt;engine and
mount if I can move it like a rocket on the launch pad in an =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
&gt;upright
position.....was thinking of building a 'box' out of 2x10 lumber =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
&gt;to 'mount'
on the firewall engine mount holes and setting the Velocity =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
&gt;fuselage
upright on that and strapping the 'box' and gear down to the =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
&gt;trailer
for the long haul..thus no wide load =
problems....</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt;
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Does anyone have any idea if the firewall can take the
stresses of this </span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
&gt; road
trip? I BELIEVE it can but do not know.... Moving it ..one way or =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
&gt; the
other,&nbsp;&nbsp; THANX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jeff =
Clough</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; If =
you think
making 3500 miles as a wide load is hard, imagine 3500 miles =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
without being
able to go through an underpass.</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
Make your box,
but bolt it to one side of the main spar.&nbsp; The wing attach =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
points are the
second strongest points on the airplane.&nbsp; Make a cradle for =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; the =
nose
(attach to the canard attach points) and put it on the trailer =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
sideways, nose
forward but rolled 90 degrees to the side.&nbsp; That way you're =
</span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
only 14' tall,
not 20'.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>&gt; =
Visit the
gallery!&nbsp; =
tvbf:jamaicangoose</span></font></b></strong></span></font></b></p>

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