REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners

Dan Smalley reflector@tvbf.org
Mon, 22 Dec 2003 06:45:06 -0500


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Count me in too.  D. Smalley
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tony Babb=20
  To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 6:02 PM
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners


  Count me in too.
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: KeithHallsten=20
    To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:22 PM
    Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners


    Me, too!  Does anyone want to become a minor stocking distributor?  =
How many different thicknesses (part numbers) will be needed on a plane?
    Keith

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Jeffrey Clough=20
      To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
      Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:14 PM
      Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners


      Wonder if we could get a 'package' deal? I'm gonna need 'em too... =
JClough

      Brian Michalk <michalk@awpi.com> wrote:=20
        It's not going to be cheap.  I think they recommend six inch =
placement.  You might be able to get away with 8 inch, due to the large =
surface area they cover.  However, for my cowl, I've already got six =
inch holes that I've been using with clecos.

        I think it will take less than 30 to do the cowls and wing =
flanges properly.  That's $300.  However, compare that to the cost of a =
potential prop strike repair, and it somehow doesn't seem so bad.
          -----Original Message-----
          From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org =
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of Robin Ream
          Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:00 AM
          To: reflector@tvbf.org
          Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners


          How many of these do you think it will take to do a good job =
on the cowl?

          Robin
            ----- Original Message -----=20
            From: Brian Michalk=20
            To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
            Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:28 AM
            Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners


            I'm going with www.skybolt.com

            Look at the CLoc fasteners on the left.  They are pricey at =
about $10 per fastener assembly, but I'm convinced they are worth it.  =
I've talked to people who just finished their Velocity, and a major =
complaint is that in the beginning, due to inspections or repairs, it is =
tedious to continuously remove and reinstall the cowl.  I would consider =
something like this a safety item.  I'm lazy, if I am going to have a =
hard time to get in and inspect something, I may defer it till later.

            I spoke to them and examined the product at Sun n Fun.  =
Looks good.
              -----Original Message-----
              From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org =
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of Al Gietzen
              Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:10 AM
              To: reflector
              Subject: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners


              Before I install butterfly nuts for countersunk screws; =
has someone found a good cam-lock type fastener that only requires a 90 =
degree twist, that works well for our application? - and looks good?



              Al







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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Me, too!&nbsp; Does anyone want to =
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    minor stocking distributor?&nbsp; How many different thicknesses =
(part=20
    numbers) will be needed on a plane?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keith</FONT></DIV>
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      fasteners</DIV>
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      <DIV>Wonder if we could get a 'package' deal? I'm gonna need 'em =
too...=20
      JClough<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Michalk &lt;<A=20
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        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
        class=3D730441517-17122003>It's not going to be cheap.&nbsp; I =
think they=20
        recommend six inch placement.&nbsp; You might be able to get =
away with 8=20
        inch, due to the large surface area they cover.&nbsp; However, =
for my=20
        cowl, I've already got six inch holes that I've been using with=20
        clecos.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
        class=3D730441517-17122003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
        class=3D730441517-17122003>I think it will take less than 30 to =
do the=20
        cowls and wing flanges properly.&nbsp; That's $300.&nbsp; =
However,=20
        compare that to the cost of a potential prop strike repair, and =
it=20
        somehow doesn't seem so bad.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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          size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
          reflector-admin@tvbf.org =
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf=20
          Of </B>Robin Ream<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 17, 2003 =
10:00=20
          AM<BR><B>To:</B> reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
          REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
          <DIV>How many of these do you think it will take to do a good =
job on=20
          the cowl?</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>Robin</DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
            <A title=3Dmichalk@awpi.com =
href=3D"mailto:michalk@awpi.com">Brian=20
            Michalk</A> </DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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            href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> =
</DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, =
December 17,=20
            2003 9:28 AM</DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
REFLECTOR:Cowl=20
            fasteners</DIV>
            <DIV><BR></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
            class=3D500332315-17122003>I'm going with <A=20
            =
href=3D"http://www.skybolt.com/">www.skybolt.com</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
            class=3D500332315-17122003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
            class=3D500332315-17122003>Look at the CLoc fasteners on the =

            left.&nbsp; They are pricey at about $10 per fastener =
assembly, but=20
            I'm convinced they are worth it.&nbsp; I've talked to people =
who=20
            just finished their Velocity, and a major complaint is that =
in the=20
            beginning, due to inspections or repairs, it is tedious to=20
            continuously remove and reinstall the cowl.&nbsp; I would =
consider=20
            something like this a safety item.&nbsp; I'm lazy, if I am =
going to=20
            have a hard time to get in and inspect something, I may =
defer it=20
            till later.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
            class=3D500332315-17122003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
            class=3D500332315-17122003>I spoke to them and examined the =
product at=20
            Sun n Fun.&nbsp; Looks good.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
            <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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#0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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align=3Dleft><FONT=20
              face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
              reflector-admin@tvbf.org =
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On=20
              Behalf Of </B>Al Gietzen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, =
December 17,=20
              2003 9:10 AM<BR><B>To:</B> reflector<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
              REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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              <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20
              style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Before I =
install=20
              butterfly nuts for countersunk screws; has someone found a =
good=20
              cam-lock type fastener that only requires a 90 degree =
twist, that=20
              works well for our application? =96 and looks=20
good?</SPAN></FONT></P>
              <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20
              style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
              <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20
              style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana">Al</SPAN></FONT></P>
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