REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners
Tony Babb
reflector@tvbf.org
Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:02:52 -0800
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Count me in too.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: KeithHallsten=20
To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners
Me, too! Does anyone want to become a minor stocking distributor? =
How many different thicknesses (part numbers) will be needed on a plane?
Keith
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jeffrey Clough=20
To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners
Wonder if we could get a 'package' deal? I'm gonna need 'em too... =
JClough
Brian Michalk <michalk@awpi.com> wrote:=20
It's not going to be cheap. I think they recommend six inch =
placement. You might be able to get away with 8 inch, due to the large =
surface area they cover. However, for my cowl, I've already got six =
inch holes that I've been using with clecos.
I think it will take less than 30 to do the cowls and wing flanges =
properly. That's $300. However, compare that to the cost of a =
potential prop strike repair, and it somehow doesn't seem so bad.
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org =
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of Robin Ream
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:00 AM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners
How many of these do you think it will take to do a good job on =
the cowl?
Robin
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Brian Michalk=20
To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners
I'm going with www.skybolt.com
Look at the CLoc fasteners on the left. They are pricey at =
about $10 per fastener assembly, but I'm convinced they are worth it. =
I've talked to people who just finished their Velocity, and a major =
complaint is that in the beginning, due to inspections or repairs, it is =
tedious to continuously remove and reinstall the cowl. I would consider =
something like this a safety item. I'm lazy, if I am going to have a =
hard time to get in and inspect something, I may defer it till later.
I spoke to them and examined the product at Sun n Fun. Looks =
good.
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org =
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:10 AM
To: reflector
Subject: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners
Before I install butterfly nuts for countersunk screws; has =
someone found a good cam-lock type fastener that only requires a 90 =
degree twist, that works well for our application? - and looks good?
Al
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Me, too! Does anyone want to =
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<DIV>Wonder if we could get a 'package' deal? I'm gonna need 'em =
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JClough<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Michalk <<A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D730441517-17122003>It's not going to be cheap. I =
think they=20
recommend six inch placement. You might be able to get away =
with 8=20
inch, due to the large surface area they cover. However, for =
my=20
cowl, I've already got six inch holes that I've been using with=20
clecos.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D730441517-17122003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D730441517-17122003>I think it will take less than 30 to do =
the cowls=20
and wing flanges properly. That's $300. However, =
compare that=20
to the cost of a potential prop strike repair, and it somehow =
doesn't seem=20
so bad.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On =
Behalf=20
Of </B>Robin Ream<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 17, 2003 =
10:00=20
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REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV>How many of these do you think it will take to do a good =
job on the=20
cowl?</DIV>
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<DIV>Robin</DIV>
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<A title=3Dmichalk@awpi.com =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, =
December 17,=20
2003 9:28 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
REFLECTOR:Cowl=20
fasteners</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D500332315-17122003>I'm going with <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.skybolt.com/">www.skybolt.com</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D500332315-17122003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D500332315-17122003>Look at the CLoc fasteners on the =
left. =20
They are pricey at about $10 per fastener assembly, but I'm =
convinced=20
they are worth it. I've talked to people who just =
finished their=20
Velocity, and a major complaint is that in the beginning, due =
to=20
inspections or repairs, it is tedious to continuously remove =
and=20
reinstall the cowl. I would consider something like this =
a=20
safety item. I'm lazy, if I am going to have a hard time =
to get=20
in and inspect something, I may defer it till=20
later.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D500332315-17122003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D500332315-17122003>I spoke to them and examined the =
product at=20
Sun n Fun. Looks good.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
reflector-admin@tvbf.org =
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Al Gietzen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December =
17,=20
2003 9:10 AM<BR><B>To:</B> reflector<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Before I =
install=20
butterfly nuts for countersunk screws; has someone found a =
good=20
cam-lock type fastener that only requires a 90 degree twist, =
that=20
works well for our application? =96 and looks =
good?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana">Al</SPAN></FONT></P>
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