REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners

Jeffrey Clough reflector@tvbf.org
Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:14:56 -0800 (PST)


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Wonder if we could get a 'package' deal? I'm gonna need 'em too... JClough

Brian Michalk <michalk@awpi.com> wrote:@font-face {	font-family: Verdana;}P.MsoNormal {	FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt}LI.MsoNormal {	FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt}DIV.MsoNormal {	FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt}A:link {	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlink {	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}A:visited {	COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {	COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.EmailStyle17 {	COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none}DIV.Section1 {	page: Section1}It's not going to be cheap.  I think they recommend six inch placement.  You might be able to get away with 8 inch, due to the large surface area they cover.  However, for my cowl, I've already got six inch holes that I've been using with clecos.
 
I think it will take less than 30 to do the cowls and wing flanges properly.  That's $300.  However, compare that to the cost of a potential prop strike repair, and it somehow doesn't seem so bad.
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From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of Robin Ream
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:00 AM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners


How many of these do you think it will take to do a good job on the cowl?
 
Robin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Brian Michalk 
To: reflector@tvbf.org 
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners


I'm going with www.skybolt.com
 
Look at the CLoc fasteners on the left.  They are pricey at about $10 per fastener assembly, but I'm convinced they are worth it.  I've talked to people who just finished their Velocity, and a major complaint is that in the beginning, due to inspections or repairs, it is tedious to continuously remove and reinstall the cowl.  I would consider something like this a safety item.  I'm lazy, if I am going to have a hard time to get in and inspect something, I may defer it till later.
 
I spoke to them and examined the product at Sun n Fun.  Looks good.
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:10 AM
To: reflector
Subject: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners



Before I install butterfly nuts for countersunk screws; has someone found a good cam-lock type fastener that only requires a 90 degree twist, that works well for our application? – and looks good?

 

Al

 

 




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<DIV>Wonder if we could get a 'package' deal? I'm gonna need 'em too... JClough<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Michalk &lt;michalk@awpi.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=730441517-17122003>It's not going to be cheap.&nbsp; I think they recommend six inch placement.&nbsp; You might be able to get away with 8 inch, due to the large surface area they cover.&nbsp; However, for my cowl, I've already got six inch holes that I've been using with clecos.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=730441517-17122003>I think it will take less than 30 to do the cowls and wing flanges properly.&nbsp; That's $300.&nbsp; However, compare that to the cost of a potential prop strike repair, and it somehow doesn't seem so bad.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Robin Ream<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:00 AM<BR><B>To:</B> reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV>How many of these do you think it will take to do a good job on the cowl?</DIV>
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<DIV>Robin</DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=michalk@awpi.com href="mailto:michalk@awpi.com">Brian Michalk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=reflector@tvbf.org href="mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:28 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=500332315-17122003>I'm going with <A href="http://www.skybolt.com/">www.skybolt.com</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=500332315-17122003>Look at the CLoc fasteners on the left.&nbsp; They are pricey at about $10 per fastener assembly, but I'm convinced they are worth it.&nbsp; I've talked to people who just finished their Velocity, and a major complaint is that in the beginning, due to inspections or repairs, it is tedious to continuously remove and reinstall the cowl.&nbsp; I would consider something like this a safety item.&nbsp; I'm lazy, if I am going to have a hard time to get in and inspect something, I may defer it till later.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=500332315-17122003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=500332315-17122003>I spoke to them and examined the product at Sun n Fun.&nbsp; Looks good.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Al Gietzen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:10 AM<BR><B>To:</B> reflector<BR><B>Subject:</B> REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Before I install butterfly nuts for countersunk screws; has someone found a good cam-lock type fastener that only requires a 90 degree twist, that works well for our application? – and looks good?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Al</SPAN></FONT></P>
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