REFLECTOR:OT: Thanks Guys!

KeithHallsten reflector@tvbf.org
Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:18:49 -0800


Greg,

Thanks for your consistent efforts to inject a bit of civility into this
anarchic forum!  Your posts generally bring a smile to my face!

Keith


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Poole" <gpoole@zeta.org.au>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 4:52 PM
Subject: REFLECTOR:OT: Thanks Guys!


> Jim S.,
>
> Often, when reading your (& Scott's & Jim A's) posts, I end up thinking
> "gee - that guys coming on a bit strong" (read; room for some negative
> reaction from others) ...but credit where credit is due ....& now that it
is
> close to years' end....I want to thank you blokes collectively for not
being
> afraid to fearlessly challenge, question and research beliefs and
generally
> accepted "wisdoms".
>
> I am sure others like myself are stimulated & ultimately educated by the
> different point of view (right or wrong) you fellas put across at the risk
> of being savaged.(..on the other hand you could all be just plain ignorant
&
> thick skinned!! *^)). In any event you raise the subject and others
qualify,
> question & seek to inform from your lead - thanks!
>
> Now to our unsung hero behind the scenes ....Brian Michalk. Brian - thanks
> for quietly tending the Reflector and making sure we all get our daily
dose
> of Velocityism. I'm going away for two weeks Christmas break on Monday and
> am sure will be wondering what matters are being persued in my absence.
>
> To All in the Velocity camp; A Merry Christmas and Safe New Year,
>
> Greg in Sydney.
> Std RG E.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Sower" <canarder@frontiernet.net>
> To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 11:31 AM
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:FADEC info
>
>
> > <... safe to say that (probably) all of the gotcha scenarios have been
> addressed ...>
> > That's comforting.  I had hoped that my questions were specific enough
to
> warrant
> > specific answers.  I think it would be interesting to know, if EGTs were
> driving fuel
> > delivery, how they address failure modes such as gradual deterioration
> (inaccurate
> > output) of the probes and how one might go about distinguishing between
a
> > deteriorating EGT probe and a deteriorating something else (like
cylinder)
> that has a
> > similar effect on EGT.
> >
> > But then again, my questions were somewhat rhetorical.  I am much more
> interested in
> > auto conversions for a variety of reasons not least of which is that I
am
> not in a
> > position to spend what FADEC costs.  Seems to me that spending all those
> thousands of
> > $ to put a "modern" face on an anachronistic Lyc is an exercise in
trying
> to make a
> > silk purse out of a sow's ear.
> >
> > Will it be as reliable and accurate as late model automotive fuel
> controls? ... Jim S.
> >
> > Wayne Lanza wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jim,
> > >   If you haven't been made aware of the Aerosance web site - here ya
> > > go...
> > > I worked closely for a week with the designers of the system while
> > > installing
> > > the Continental FADEC system in Velocity's XL Dash 5 demonstrator
> > > aircraft.
> > > They have designed many failure mode operations into the system, safe
to
> > > say that (probably) all of the gotcha scenarios have been addressed.
> > >
> > > Have a Great Holiday,
> > > Wayne Lanza
> > > Composite Design
> > >
> > > goto the Aerosance web page at - http://www.FADEC.com
> > > ________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > On Thursday, December 18, 2003, at 11:16 PM, Jim Sower wrote:
> > >
> > > > I need some help with some specifics on how FADEC works.
> > > > <... FADEC system meters the fuel-air mixture to ... power ... 100
> > > > degrees Rich of
> > > > peak ... cruise ... 100 degrees Lean of peak ...>
> > > >
> > > > Is it safe to assume that this FADEC feature is driven by EGT
sensors?
> > > >
> > > > Is it further safe to assume that FADEC varies fuel delivery from
one
> > > > cylinder to
> > > > another according to individual EGTs (which of course are caused by
> > > > uneven air
> > > > delivery through the non symmetric intake runners)?
> > > >
> > > > IIRC, EGT probes tend to fail by degrees, giving increasingly
> > > > erroneous readings for a
> > > > while until they quit altogether.  How does FADEC [allege?] to deal
> > > > with partial
> > > > failures of EGT probe?  Total failure?
> > > >
> > > > Inquiring minds need to know .... Jim S.
> > >
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> > Jim Sower
> > Crossville, TN; Chapter 5
> > Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T
> >
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