REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners

Brian Michalk reflector@tvbf.org
Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:48:33 -0600


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It's not going to be cheap.  I think they recommend six inch placement.  You
might be able to get away with 8 inch, due to the large surface area they
cover.  However, for my cowl, I've already got six inch holes that I've been
using with clecos.

I think it will take less than 30 to do the cowls and wing flanges properly.
That's $300.  However, compare that to the cost of a potential prop strike
repair, and it somehow doesn't seem so bad.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf
Of Robin Ream
  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:00 AM
  To: reflector@tvbf.org
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners


  How many of these do you think it will take to do a good job on the cowl?

  Robin
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Brian Michalk
    To: reflector@tvbf.org
    Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:28 AM
    Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners


    I'm going with www.skybolt.com

    Look at the CLoc fasteners on the left.  They are pricey at about $10
per fastener assembly, but I'm convinced they are worth it.  I've talked to
people who just finished their Velocity, and a major complaint is that in
the beginning, due to inspections or repairs, it is tedious to continuously
remove and reinstall the cowl.  I would consider something like this a
safety item.  I'm lazy, if I am going to have a hard time to get in and
inspect something, I may defer it till later.

    I spoke to them and examined the product at Sun n Fun.  Looks good.
      -----Original Message-----
      From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of Al Gietzen
      Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:10 AM
      To: reflector
      Subject: REFLECTOR:Cowl fasteners


      Before I install butterfly nuts for countersunk screws; has someone
found a good cam-lock type fastener that only requires a 90 degree twist,
that works well for our application? – and looks good?



      Al






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not going to be cheap.&nbsp; I think they recommend six inch =
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You might be able to get away with 8 inch, due to the large surface area =
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think it will take less than 30 to do the cowls and wing flanges =
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That's $300.&nbsp; However, compare that to the cost of a potential prop =
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  <DIV>How many of these do you think it will take to do a good job on =
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    class=3D500332315-17122003>Look at the CLoc fasteners on the =
left.&nbsp; They=20
    are pricey at about $10 per fastener assembly, but I'm convinced =
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Velocity, and=20
    a major complaint is that in the beginning, due to inspections or =
repairs,=20
    it is tedious to continuously remove and reinstall the cowl.&nbsp; I =
would=20
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    have a hard time to get in and inspect something, I may defer it =
till=20
    later.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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    spoke to them and examined the product at Sun n Fun.&nbsp; Looks=20
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      [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Al=20
      Gietzen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:10 =
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      reflector<BR><B>Subject:</B> REFLECTOR:Cowl =
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