REFLECTOR:Battery

Rene Dugas reflector@tvbf.org
Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:10:03 -0600


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I use a Black Panther Gas Recom at about 26 pounds.  Replacing next
week.  Had it for 5 years while building and for one while flying.
Replacing at annual.  Expensive at about $150.  Should be good for 5
years.   Mounts in any position.  Extraordinary cranking power at 800
CCA.  Replacing with same battery from Odyssey with over 900CCA.  About
1/3rd the size of car battery.  Seems to crank the IO540 for ever.
Dimensions very small at about 6 x 6.5 x 7 inches.  Battery has also
been called a Predator.

www.odysseyfactory.com

Rene'

N129RD

150 hrs flying.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Dave Nelson
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:21 PM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Battery

 

Good question - I should have been more explicit...

 

The original battery I used was a Die Hard "Gold", group 26, PN 36080.
It lasted about 4 years, and was actually still going strong when I
decided to replace it at last year's annual due to it's age.  I figured
$30-40 bucks as opposed to a dead battery somewhere on the road was a
good trade.  Unfortunately, when I went to the local Sears, I learned
that the "Gold" version of this battery was no longer available.  Worse,
group 26 batteries were getting harder to find because they hadn't been
designed into any cars for quite awhile.  So, I went with the normal Die
Hard, which has signficantly less CCA (Cold Cranking Amps - the amount
of current the battery can develop at 0 degrees farenheit while
maintaining at least 7.2 Volts).  It worked, well, OK, during this
spring, summer, and fall, but recently has failed.  

 

Now, it's under warranty, and I can get quite a bit of value out of it
by mearly replacing it.  And that's the easiest thing to do.  However,
given that it has less current capacity than the "Gold" battery I used
to have, it turns over my IO-360 slower than the "Gold" did, and I don't
like that - I've always been worried about having the thing die on me
since I put it in.  So... I decided to check for options.  

 

Anyway, that's why I'm interested in options.  I may well stick with a
Group 26 battery...  but, if there's a better option out there, I might
go for it.  Thanks!

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Ronnie Brown <mailto:romott@adelphia.net>  

To: reflector@tvbf.org 

Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 4:48 PM

Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Battery

 

Sounds like your battery choice has been good.  Why would you want to
change?

 

Ronnie

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Dave Nelson <mailto:davenali@charter.net>  

To: reflector@tvbf.org 

Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:02 PM

Subject: REFLECTOR:Battery

 

I've been running a Sears Die Hard group 26 battery in my IO-360 std-rg
for many years.  However, it's time for a fresh battery and I'm looking
for other options.  

 

What are you guys using?  How happy are you?

 

Thanks!

 

Dave

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I use a <i><span =
style=3D'font-style:italic'>Black
Panther</span></i> Gas Recom at about 26 pounds.&nbsp; Replacing next =
week.&nbsp;
Had it for 5 years while building and for one while flying.&nbsp; =
Replacing at
annual.&nbsp; Expensive at about $150.&nbsp; Should be good for 5 =
years.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Mounts in any position.&nbsp; Extraordinary cranking power at 800 =
CCA.&nbsp; Replacing
with same battery from Odyssey with over 900CCA.&nbsp; About =
1/3<sup>rd</sup> the
size of car battery.&nbsp; Seems to crank the IO540 for ever.&nbsp; =
Dimensions very
small at about 6 x 6.5 x 7 inches.&nbsp; </span></font><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Battery</span></f=
ont><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> has also been called a <i><span =
style=3D'font-style:italic'>Predator</span></i>.</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rene&#8217;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>N129RD</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>150 hrs flying.</span></font></p>

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
reflector-admin@tvbf.org
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf
Of </span></b>Dave Nelson<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, November =
29, 2003
12:21 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
reflector@tvbf.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
REFLECTOR:Battery</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Good question - I should =
have been
more explicit...</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The original battery I used =
was a
Die Hard &quot;Gold&quot;, group 26, PN 36080.&nbsp; It lasted about 4 =
years,
and was actually still going strong when I decided to replace it at last =
year's
annual due to it's age.&nbsp; I figured $30-40 bucks as opposed to a =
dead
battery somewhere on the road was a good trade.&nbsp; Unfortunately, =
when I
went to the local Sears, I learned that the &quot;Gold&quot; version of =
this
battery was no longer available.&nbsp; Worse, group 26 batteries were =
getting harder
to find because they hadn't been designed into any cars for quite =
awhile.&nbsp;
So, I went with the normal Die Hard, which has signficantly less CCA =
(Cold
Cranking Amps - the amount of current the battery can develop at 0 =
degrees
farenheit while maintaining at least 7.2 Volts).&nbsp; It worked, well, =
OK,
during this spring, summer, and fall, but recently has failed.&nbsp; =
</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Now, it's under warranty, =
and I can
get quite a bit of value out of it by mearly replacing it.&nbsp; And =
that's the
easiest thing to do.&nbsp; However, given that it has less current =
capacity
than the &quot;Gold&quot; battery I used to have, it turns over my =
IO-360
slower than the &quot;Gold&quot; did, and I don't like that - I've =
always been
worried about having the thing die on me since I put it in.&nbsp; So... =
I
decided to check for options.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

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<div>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Anyway, that's why I'm =
interested in
options.&nbsp; I may well stick with a Group 26 battery...&nbsp; but, if
there's a better option out there, I might go for it.&nbsp; =
Thanks!</span></font></p>

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href=3D"mailto:romott@adelphia.net" title=3D"romott@adelphia.net">Ronnie =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org" =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Sounds like your battery choice has been =
good.&nbsp;
Why would you want to change?</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:davenali@charter.net" title=3D"davenali@charter.net">Dave =
Nelson</a>
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/font></b><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org" =
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></font></b><font
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November 28, 2003 5:02 PM</span></font></p>

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REFLECTOR:Battery</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I've been running a Sears =
Die Hard
group 26 battery in my IO-360 std-rg for many years.&nbsp; However, it's =
time
for a fresh battery and I'm looking for other options.&nbsp; =
</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What are you guys =
using?&nbsp; How
happy are you?</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks!</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dave</span></font></p>

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