REFLECTOR:Tools

Robin Ream reflector@tvbf.org
Thu, 24 Apr 2003 18:05:32 -0500


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Hello guys,

    Just a thought for those thinking about a compressor.  First of all, =
it's the backbone of your entire shop, so don't skimp on it.  -  You'll =
be sorry if you do.  Air tools use up a lot of cfm of air, so get the =
biggest and fastest one your pocket book can afford.  The main air tool =
you're likely to want to use (once you get accustomed to them) are the =
various wonderful sanders.  They typically require between 60 to 90 =
pounds air pressure, and that can empty a tank fast, so you also want a =
compressor with the fastest recovery rate possible. =20
    Remember, the beauty if professional air tools is also their curse, =
i.e. speed!  They will cut your work time down to a small fraction of =
what it takes without them, but don't use them on your Velocity until =
you've practiced a little on a piece of crap first.  If you need to, =
make up a piece of practice stock to get the feel of the tool on.  I =
keep hearing people say "don't try to sand your airplane with air =
sanders."  I've got no way to know for sure, but I'll bet most, if not =
all of those comments come from people who had too little experience =
with pneumatic tools.  Case in point:  Chevrolet Curvets are made pretty =
much out of the same materials as our airplanes.  If you took the air =
tools, especially the sanders and grinders out of the Corvette body shop =
you wouldn't get your car back for months, and it would cost more to =
repair than replace! =20
    Anyway, don't fear the air tools.  They'll cut your labor by 80% =
once you learn to use them well, but you will need a good compressor to =
power them.  If you're going to cut corners someplace, do it on the =
tools themselves and not on your compressor. =20

Robin
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Alexander Balic=20
  To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 3:26 PM
  Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Tools


  Chris,
  I think you need to mail order them for that price- I just order the =
stuff over the internet- no tax, no shipping, and I don't even have to =
go outside to get the stuff either!! and I think that they have a =
compressor for about $150 or so that will drive it and the other nice =
air tools all day long- I really don't know how folks manage to build =
one of these planes without air tools- even if you just use the air to =
blow the tons and tons of dust off of the plane it is worth the money =
for a compressor.....
    -----Original Message-----
    From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On =
Behalf Of Christopher Barber
    Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 1:23 PM
    To: reflector@tvbf.org
    Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Tools


    Alex, thanks....I was there a week ago and they were still =
$49.00....may be worth the 30 mile drive half way across town....even =
though I loaned out my compressor about 7 years ago and haven't seen it =
since. <g>

    Thanks for the heads up.

    All the best,

    Chris
      -----Original Message-----
      From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On =
Behalf Of Alexander Balic
      Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 10:10 PM
      To: Reflector
      Subject: REFLECTOR:Tools


      Just to let everyone know, Harbor freight tools has their air =
powered body saw (AKA fiberglass laser) on sale right now for 20 bucks- =
the last one that I bought from them 3 years ago is still going strong, =
but for the $20 I might just get another one if not just to pay homage =
to the tool that has done almost as much work on my plane as I have.

      Alex
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<DIV>Hello guys,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Just a thought for those thinking about a=20
compressor.&nbsp; First of all, it's the backbone of your entire shop, =
so don't=20
skimp on it.&nbsp; -&nbsp; You'll be sorry if you do.&nbsp; Air tools =
use up a=20
lot of cfm of air, so get the biggest and fastest one your pocket book =
can=20
afford.&nbsp; The main air tool you're likely to want to use (once you =
get=20
accustomed to them) are the various wonderful sanders.&nbsp; They =
typically=20
require between 60 to 90 pounds air pressure, and that can empty a tank =
fast, so=20
you also want a compressor with the fastest recovery rate =
possible.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Remember, the beauty if professional air tools =
is also=20
their curse, i.e. <STRONG><U>speed!</U></STRONG>&nbsp; They will cut =
your work=20
time down to a small fraction of what it takes without them, but don't =
use them=20
on your Velocity until you've practiced a little on a piece of&nbsp;crap =

first.&nbsp; If you need to, make up a piece of practice stock to get =
the feel=20
of the tool on.&nbsp; I keep hearing people say "don't try to sand your =
airplane=20
with air sanders."&nbsp; I've got no way to know for sure, but I'll bet =
most, if=20
not all of those comments come from people who had too little experience =
with=20
pneumatic tools.&nbsp; Case in point:&nbsp; Chevrolet Curvets are made =
pretty=20
much out of the same materials as our airplanes.&nbsp; If you took the =
air=20
tools, especially the sanders and grinders out of the Corvette body shop =
you=20
wouldn't get your car back for months, and it would cost more to repair =
than=20
replace!&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Anyway, don't fear the air tools.&nbsp; They'll =
cut your=20
labor by 80% once you learn to use them well, but you will need a good=20
compressor to power them.&nbsp; If you're going to cut corners =
someplace, do it=20
on the tools themselves and not on your compressor.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Robin</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dalex157@direcway.com =
href=3D"mailto:alex157@direcway.com">Alexander=20
  Balic</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dreflector@tvbf.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 24, 2003 =
3:26=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
REFLECTOR:Tools</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D715072320-24042003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Chris,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D715072320-24042003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  think you need to mail order them for that price- I just order the =
stuff over=20
  the internet- no tax, no shipping, and I don't even have to go outside =
to get=20
  the stuff either!! and I think that they have a compressor for about =
$150 or=20
  so that will drive it and the other nice air tools all day long- I =
really=20
  don't know how folks manage to build one of these planes without air =
tools-=20
  even if you just use the air to blow the tons and tons of dust off of =
the=20
  plane it is worth the money for a compressor.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
reflector-admin@tvbf.org=20
    [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Christopher=20
    Barber<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 24, 2003 1:23 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
    REFLECTOR:Tools<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D049521119-24042003><FONT face=3DGaramond =
color=3D#0000ff>Alex,=20
    thanks....I was there a week ago and they were still $49.00....may =
be worth=20
    the 30 mile drive half way across town....even though I loaned out =
my=20
    compressor about 7 years ago and haven't seen it since.=20
    &lt;g&gt;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D049521119-24042003><FONT face=3DGaramond=20
    color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D049521119-24042003><FONT face=3DGaramond =
color=3D#0000ff>Thanks=20
    for the heads up.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D049521119-24042003><FONT face=3DGaramond=20
    color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D049521119-24042003><FONT face=3DGaramond =
color=3D#0000ff>All=20
    the best,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D049521119-24042003><FONT face=3DGaramond=20
    color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D049521119-24042003><FONT face=3DGaramond=20
    color=3D#0000ff>Chris</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
reflector-admin@tvbf.org=20
      [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Alexander=20
      Balic<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 23, 2003 10:10 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
      Reflector<BR><B>Subject:</B> REFLECTOR:Tools<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D281070703-24042003>Just to let=20
      everyone know, Harbor freight tools has their air powered body saw =
(AKA=20
      fiberglass laser) on sale right now for 20 bucks- the last one =
that I=20
      bought from them 3 years ago is still going strong, but for the =
$20 I=20
      might just get another one if not just to pay homage to the tool =
that has=20
      done almost as much work on my plane as I =
have.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D281070703-24042003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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