REFLECTOR:Considering alternate engines
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reflector@tvbf.org
Sat, 19 Apr 2003 10:08:51 -0500
I am not sure about the prop, but I THINK the IVO will work. I have only
seriously researched and made a decision on the rotary in the last few
months. So there are still specifics I need to work out once the specific
engine choice is made...such as the best prop for the 13b N/A, or turbo or
Renesis. The Reduction drive may be different for the Renesis (Tracy Crooks
site mentions he is developing a different reduction drive for the Renesis).
>From what I understand there have been some issues with the IVO at higher
sustained RPM's. But I also saw discussion that they may have been worked
out. I am still quite a way from needing an engine (even though I bought a
core for "research/play"). I am hoping the Renesis will become available.
The guy at the Mazda place I got the engine was surprised I wanted the
Renesis, since it was sooooooo expensive new (I have been told about
$6500.00 US$). Until I enlightened him on the cost of a new...or used
aircraft engine. "Oh".
As to alternates to insurance. In a typical lawyer fashion.....it depends.
There are steps you can take that limit your liability (depending on state
and your specific needs, desires and circumstances, please contact local
counsel). This does not replace your plane (different theories exist on
having funds to repair damage, of which I am not yet well schooled) and if
you hurt someone or something, it does not help the party injured (actually,
with certain planning, the injured party may be SOL). But these steps
require planning and follow through and have cost. Insurance is the easy
way, but becoming such a pain/expensive or just not available. This
planning would not be as viable if insurance was not becoming unobtainable.
So if you only want to limit your personal liability and any one you hurt
may be screwed, there are things that can do this. They are not perfect,
but neither is insurance. Liability insurance is there to HELP those you
hurt...some of this planning is to help you avoid financial loss. Hopefully,
frivolous actions from others can be avoided and/or minimized. Some feel
since you have a plane you must be rich and can afford to pay for perceived
wrongs. States vary...in Texas there is a VERY strong homestead
exemption....unless you don't re-pay your purchase money, aka, mortgage you
can almost never loose you home in Texas...also, statutes prevent the loss
of one car...a couple of oxen, and some other livestock, your dog, your
cloths, a gun (we are in Texas), etc....you get the idea. This is worse
case scenario protection and, again, vary per state. More advanced planning
can be used.
THESE STEPS MAY NOT SOLVE ALL YOUR CONCERNS OR NEEDS, they are just some
options to the lack of available LIABILITY insurance and may not work
perfectly or as you had hoped. Asset protection techniques may be much
better than nothing, but those folks you really did injure due to your
mistake or accident, may be left out in the cold. Some of this planning is
better with insurance and is used as a backup when insurance is inadequate
or denied after the fact (not all that uncommon) This is a much more
complex topic than can be competently discussed via email. Sorry about that.
Some of the planning may not have been economically feasible compared to
cheap insurance. When you find cheap insurance, let us know. FWIW.
YMMV.
All the best,
Chris
Houston
SE/FG with Yoke
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of Tony Babb
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 11:51 PM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Considering alternate engines
Chris,
I'm building a SEFG and also thinking about rotary, the cost savings are
significant. My initial concerns about availability of an installation kit
seem to be being addressed and with a bit of luck there'll be more
experience and options out there when I come to actually buy the engine.
Insurance is the only hurdle/ brick wall I can see left, I was wondering
what you meant by "alternate steps" - do you have something in mind? Self
insurance/ no insurance/ your own company....
Have you had any thoughts on the prop for a rotary? I'd like an adjustable
pitch prop but can't/won't afford an MT. Could an IVO be run on a rotary?
Thanks,
----- Original Message -----
From: "texasattorney.net" <CBarber@texasattorney.net>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Considering alternate engines
> Donno yet, but from what I have read on the net it is a problem. If you
> think there is a bias against experimental, try an even "more"
experimental
> with an auto conversion. Even though I am disappointed by this narrow
scope
> of thinking, it is a reality. So, we must work harder and take alternate
> steps. FWIW.
>
> All the best,
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> Behalf Of Scott Derrick
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 8:59 PM
> To: reflector@tvbf.org
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Considering alternate engines
>
>
> How about insurance? Seems like it is tough enough to insure these fast
> glass homebuilts with certified engines. How are people doing it with
> rotary's, V6's, etc...
>
> Scott
>
> texasattorney.net wrote:
> > Al is further along than me. Also, he is using the bigger and heavier
> > 20b. I plan on using the 13b. I should be able to get pretty good hp
> > and even approach the same power of the 3 rotor 20b NA (normal
> > aspiration) if I turbo the 13b. Mazda has just introduced a new 13b
> > which is rated at about 240 hp before you sip off the emission stuff.
> > It is called the Renesis and is only available in the new RX-8. New, out
> > of the box it may cost about $6500. A guy in Australia says he can get
> > them now, but they are not available in the US yet. Hopefully before I
> > need one for my SE, they will be available.
> >
> > I bought a 13b core yesterday for $100.00 so I could strip it down and
> > play/learn from it. You can get a rebuilt 13b (which, btw is all new
> > parts) for aviation use for about $4k. There is a very good video
> > available on rebuilding the rotary. Cost for a complete overall is
> > about $900, if you do the work. The smaller 13b should be able to
> > produce from about 160 hp to 210 hp NA or about 250 turbo. The 20b
> > about 250 NA. There are only three moving parts in the 13b and I think
> > 4 moving parts in the 20b. Of course this does not include accessories
> > such as the alternator. I really like this option. Rob Johnson, a
> > former Velo builder/owner was going to use a 20b in his XL, but decided
> > on a Lycosarus for an easier/know installation....but, Rob is a fan of
> > the Rotary and has a nice commentary on his Velo builders page at
> > www.robjohnson.com <http://www.robjohnson.com>. Finally, if you go to
> > the links page on my website, www.LoneStarVelocity.com
> > <http://www.LoneStarVelocity.com> ,you will find most of the really good
> > links for rotaries in aviation use. Be sure to visit Tracy Crooks
> > company site, Real World Solutions at www.rotaryaviation.com
> > <http://www.rotaryaviation.com>. Tracy has 1300 hrs on his RV and sells
> > ECU and reduction drives. I got my engine mount for
> > www.conversionconcepts.com <http://www.conversionconcepts.com>. Nice
> work.
> >
> > Please feel free to give me a call if you want to discuss it more. Home
> > is 713-991-0333, Office is 281-464-5297 and cell is 832-818-2355. Or
> > email, you know the address <g>.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > [texasattorney.net]
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> > Behalf Of Milehitaz@aol.com
> > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 4:59 PM
> > To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > Subject: REFLECTOR:Considering alternate engines
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi folks..... thinking about options to the Lycosarus and
> > Continental. I am in a very good spot in my build to go either
> > way.....finished with the RG and starting the fuel strakes in a
XL/RG.
> >
> > Is there a list of builders working with the rotary engines? I would
> > like to discuss the option off reflector with you. Please e-mail
> > directly at milehitaz@aol.com Thanx in advance for your time and
> > input.
> > Larry Lambert
> >
>
>
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