REFLECTOR:Considering alternate engines

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Al is further along than me. Also, he is using the bigger and heavier 20b.
I plan on using the 13b. I should be able to get pretty good hp and even
approach the same power of the 3 rotor 20b NA (normal aspiration) if I turbo
the 13b.  Mazda has just introduced a new 13b which is rated at about 240 hp
before you sip off the emission stuff.  It is called the Renesis and is only
available in the new RX-8. New, out of the box it may cost about $6500.  A
guy in Australia says he can get them now, but they are not available in the
US yet.  Hopefully before I need one for my SE, they will be available.

I bought a 13b core yesterday for $100.00 so I could strip it down and
play/learn from it.  You can get a rebuilt 13b (which, btw is all new parts)
for aviation use for about $4k.  There is a very good video available on
rebuilding the rotary.  Cost for a complete overall is about $900, if you do
the work.  The smaller 13b should be able to produce from about 160 hp to
210 hp NA or about 250 turbo.  The 20b about 250 NA.  There are only three
moving parts in the 13b and I think 4 moving parts in the 20b.  Of course
this does not include accessories such as the alternator.  I really like
this option.  Rob Johnson, a former Velo builder/owner was going to use a
20b in his XL, but decided on a Lycosarus for an easier/know
installation....but, Rob is a fan of the Rotary and has a nice commentary on
his Velo builders page at www.robjohnson.com.  Finally, if you go to the
links page on my website, www.LoneStarVelocity.com ,you will find most of
the really good links for rotaries in aviation use.  Be sure to visit Tracy
Crooks company site, Real World Solutions at www.rotaryaviation.com.  Tracy
has 1300 hrs on his RV and sells ECU and reduction drives.  I got my engine
mount for www.conversionconcepts.com.  Nice work.

Please feel free to give me a call if you want to discuss it more.  Home is
713-991-0333, Office is 281-464-5297 and cell is 832-818-2355.  Or email,
you know the address <g>.

All the best,

Chris

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Subject: REFLECTOR:Considering alternate engines




  Hi folks..... thinking about options to the Lycosarus and Continental.
I am in a very good spot in my build to go either way.....finished with the
RG and starting the fuel strakes in a XL/RG.

  Is there a list of builders working with the rotary engines? I would like
to discuss the option off reflector with you. Please e-mail directly at
milehitaz@aol.com     Thanx in advance for your time and input.
  Larry Lambert

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size=3D2>Al is=20
further along than me. Also, he is using the bigger and heavier =
20b.&nbsp; I=20
plan on using the 13b. I should be able to get pretty good hp and even =
approach=20
the same power of the 3 rotor 20b NA (normal aspiration) if I turbo the=20
13b.&nbsp; Mazda has just introduced a new 13b which is rated at about =
240 hp=20
before you sip off the emission stuff.&nbsp; It is called the Renesis =
and is=20
only available in the new RX-8. New, out of the box it may cost about=20
$6500.&nbsp; A guy in Australia says he can get them now, but they are =
not=20
available in the US yet.&nbsp; Hopefully before I need one for my SE, =
they will=20
be available.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D694424423-18042003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
bought a 13b core yesterday for $100.00 so I could strip it down and =
play/learn=20
from it.&nbsp; You can get a rebuilt 13b (which, btw is all new parts) =
for=20
aviation use for about $4k.&nbsp; There is&nbsp;a very good video =
available on=20
rebuilding the rotary.&nbsp; Cost for a complete overall is about $900, =
if you=20
do the work.&nbsp; The smaller 13b should be able to produce from about =
160 hp=20
to 210 hp NA or about 250 turbo.&nbsp; The 20b about 250 NA.&nbsp; There =
are=20
only three moving parts in the 13b and I think 4 moving parts in the =
20b.&nbsp;=20
Of course this does not include accessories such as the =
alternator.&nbsp; I=20
really like this option.&nbsp; Rob Johnson, a former Velo builder/owner =
was=20
going to use a 20b in his XL, but decided on a Lycosarus for an =
easier/know=20
installation....but, Rob is a fan of the Rotary and has a nice =
commentary on his=20
Velo builders page at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.robjohnson.com">www.robjohnson.com</A>.&nbsp; =
Finally, if you=20
go to the links page on my website, <A=20
href=3D"http://www.LoneStarVelocity.com">www.LoneStarVelocity.com</A> =
,you will=20
find most of the really good links for rotaries in aviation use.&nbsp; =
Be sure=20
to visit Tracy Crooks company site, Real World Solutions at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.rotaryaviation.com">www.rotaryaviation.com</A>.&nbsp; =
Tracy has=20
1300 hrs on his RV and sells ECU and reduction drives.&nbsp; I got my =
engine=20
mount for <A=20
href=3D"http://www.conversionconcepts.com">www.conversionconcepts.com</A>=
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Nice work.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D694424423-18042003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Please=20
feel free to give me a call if you want to discuss it more.&nbsp; Home =
is=20
713-991-0333, Office is 281-464-5297 and cell is 832-818-2355.&nbsp; Or =
email,=20
you know the address &lt;g&gt;.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D694424423-18042003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>All=20
the best,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D694424423-18042003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

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</B>Milehitaz@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 18, 2003 4:59=20
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alternate engines<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Hi folks..... thinking about options to the =
Lycosarus and=20
  Continental.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am in a very good spot in my build to =
go=20
  either way.....finished with the RG and starting the fuel strakes in a =

  XL/RG.<BR><BR>Is there a list of builders working with the rotary =
engines? I=20
  would like to discuss the option off reflector with you. Please e-mail =

  directly at milehitaz@aol.com&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanx in advance =
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