Re: REFLECTOR: Update on Seat Foam

[jpr@ix.netcom.com]

Jim, thanks for getting back to me.  As a matter of fact, I just ordered
the seats today, will talk to Lee about it Monday when he gets back.  I
was going to cut 1/2-inch from each bolster and the middle areas, but 
on second thought decided to just order the standard width.  My
upholstery guy may trim it up, or if not, I can just use them for the
back seats and order two more, customized, later for the front seats. 
We'll see..

Anyway, hope you had a good trip!  Perhaps I'll stop by the hangar
sometime, but I'm spending most of my time in Florida over in Melbourne
working on the plane these days.

thanks,
-John


James F. Agnew wrote:
> 
> John, I had them set up for the standard seats so you will have to show them where and
> how much width to take out.  Sorry I didn't get back sooner but got home from Turkey
> at 2 am this morning.
> 
> I'm going to suggest that you go for the PIN Cored cushions to reduce weight
> especially if you intend to use the 130-150# foam on the bottom.  They just drill the
> foam with evenly spaced holes and Lee says that it makes little difference in
> durability but does reduce weight.
> 
> Jim
> 
> jpr@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> > Jim,
> >
> > I just spoke with the folks at CRFoam, talked to Marlene (Lee was out of
> > town).  I asked whether anyone had setup part numbers for the newer
> > narrower (14.5" vs. 16") Elite seats, she thought you were doing
> > something with Lee on that but wasn't sure..
> >
> > If you have, that's what I need.  Or, she can FAX drawings down to me
> > and I can note the changes needed.  Or, she can just send the ones
> > you've listed here and I can cut them to fit.
> >
> > But first, I wanted to check with you..
> >
> > (BTW, how are you coming along with your Velocity??)
> >
> > -john rourke
> >
> > James F. Agnew wrote:
> > >
> > > For all of you waiting for the update I will give you a basic
> > > description.
> > >
> > > For safety reasons I wanted additional spinal protection so I specified
> > > the bottom layer be 3/4" of 130/150# foam.  This stuff is VERY firm and
> > > is really tough to compress but in the case of a crash will absorb a lot
> > > of energy with little rebound.  The next layer is 1 3/4" thick  of
> > > 55/65# and the bolster area is 1" of 45/55#.  This is the seat bottom
> > > and everyone that has tried it likes the feel and it does not bottom out
> > > with a 240# person test case.  My wife weighs about 120# and she also
> > > found it comfortable.
> > >
> > > The backs rest cushions have the same 3/4" of 130/150# foam.  The next
> > > layer is 1 3/4" thick  of 45/55# and the bolster area is 1" of 35/45#.
> > >
> > > The cushion foam can be ordered from Chestnut Ridge Foam, Latrobe, PA at
> > > 1-800-234-2734 and ask for Lee Danovitz.  Send questions to Lee Danovitz
> > > at CRFOAM@WESTOL.COM.  Please try and limit the telephone calls to
> > > orders  This is a commercial company (your order may be right along side
> > > Boeing's) and you will get professional service and I found them very
> > > responsive.  They DON'T take credit cards so you need to pre-pay or
> > > arrange for COD.
> > >
> > > Remember that these cushions are straight cut to fit the standard trays
> > > and the bottom cushion will require the "duct" notch to be cut and both
> > > cushions will require shaping of the bolster area and anything else you
> > > want to do.
> > >
> > > If someone would be willing to ship them a set of the narrow bottom
> > > trays I would see if they could digitize the cutting for them.
> > >
> > > SEAT BOTTOMS CUSHION  Part # CRF 501571-02  @  $23.34 each
> > >
> > > SEAT BACK CUSHION         Part # CRF 601451-02  @  $39.05 each
> > >
> > > SHIPPING IS EXTRA  (mine cost $25 for 4 sets plus 2 sheets of foam to
> > > Tampa, FL)
> > >
> > > They also sell sheets of this foam in all sorts of thickness that has
> > > many uses.  They also say that it has good sound deadening
> > > characteristics  I purchased two sheets of 1/4" x 36" x 60" 45/55#
> > > ($10.54 each) to use as underlayment for my upholstering (e.g.,
> > > headliner, keel, etc.).
> > >
> > > They call the 130/150# structural and it would probably make nice push
> > > in false bulkheads to hide the real ones.  I think that a 1/2" piece
> > > would be great to seal the doghouse so air doesn't come over it.
> > >
> > > I'm open to questions, happy sitting!
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
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> > >
> > > // James F. Agnew
> > > // Tampa, FL
> > > // Velocity 173 FG Elite ( http://www.VelocityAircraft.com/ ) under
> > > construction
> 
> --
> //------10--------20--------30--------40--------50--------60--------70--------80
> // James F. Agnew
> // Tampa, FL
> // Velocity 173 FG Elite ( http://www.VelocityAircraft.com/ ) under construction